Who Really Discovered America?

by Kim Greenhouse on January 31, 2010

in History & Antiquity, Most Popular, Shows

I learned in school that Columbus discovered America. But one man and a huge team have mounted a body of evidence that suggests the Chinese beat him to it. Do history books have to be rewritten? Gavin Menzies is the author of 1421: The Year China Discovered America, a 14-year journey of exploration and discovery. This controversial discovery is bound to challenge your thinking about the realm of exploration and discovery.

Gavin has also written a book about the European Renaissance called 1434: The Year A Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance. This interview with Gavin, which is the first in a two-part interview, will be focused primarily on 1421.

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1 bob lee March 9, 2010 at 3:40 pm

I read jeff wade criticize expert like Dr Thompson and others, what is he a KNOW ALL EXPERT??? bob

2 Arthur Cristian February 22, 2010 at 1:56 am

I also totally agree with Robert. Love For Life consciousness research reveals what Robert stated……. to be true.

Whoever controls how others think and feel
And causes them to act on these feelings and thoughts
Is given all the power by those whose thoughts and feelings are controlled
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3 Arthur Cristian February 22, 2010 at 1:52 am

Hello Karen,
We posted this 26th Feb 2008: Videos: UNTOLD BLACK HISTORY – The True History Of Black Americans – “Everyone Should Watch These Videos” http://loveforlife.com.au/node/4054

And there is so much more interesting information to be found by exploring here: Archaeology Answers About Ancient Civilizations: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3081 and here History: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3747 and here Astronomy – Geocentricity – Heliocentricity – Does The Earth Go Around The Sun Or Does The Sun Go Around The Earth?: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3455

All the best
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4 radd February 18, 2010 at 10:54 am

Someone once said … “the Earth is not the center of the Universe” and the indoctrinated dogmas created by traditionalist(s) says “HERESY!!!”

And so the like of Giordano Bruno and others who used Copernican principles found themselves burned at the stake.

And here is Gavin Menzies freely walking and thinking and submitting products of his brain like a child full of curiosity ~ On the other_hand, “serious” people are really a danger to Humanity.

“Ethics” is simply a last-gasp attempt by deist conservatives and orthodox dogmatics to keep humanity in ignorance and obscurantism, through the well tried fermentation of fear, the fear of science and new technologies.

There is nothing glorious about what our ancestors call history, it is simply a succession of mistakes, intolerances and violations.

On the contrary, let us embrace Science and the new technologies unfettered, for it is these which will liberate mankind from the myth of god, and free us from our age old fears, from disease, death and the sweat of labour.

Rael

5 refyama February 18, 2010 at 7:16 am

i think, that gm is true. the official history was fool. china must the best in history of the world not european.

6 Kim Greenhouse February 17, 2010 at 1:22 pm

Henry, thoughtful piece. So many came before us all. I can’t wait to keep on learning. I will look into Ancient American. Thank you for tuning in.

7 Henry Quinn February 17, 2010 at 11:19 am

Another thing to consider: Not who was first , but who in all came over. There are a great number of books on the subject, most of which came before Gavin’s, that proclaim that the Egyptians, Phoenicians, Romans, Jews and dozens of others were here first. It does not matter, but we should honor them by finding out if they were here at all. A great magazine to start exploring is ANCIENT AMERICAN -they cover most of the ideas about America. The foreign miners of Michigan’s Copper, Mound builders of the Mississippi, and others. Therer is plenty of information out there thanks to tireless people like Gavinn. I may not agree with everything he says, but I appreciate he took the time to tell us about it.

8 Henry Quinn February 17, 2010 at 9:43 am

Gavin Menzies is a dangerous person. Important but dangerous. All through history people have been killed or thrown out of windows because they did not believe in the official history. Gavin is probably the most important historical figure since Darwin. Wether he is right or wrong does not matter, he makes us think. It does not matter that he give the shadow the same weight as the bowling ball, we can figure that out later.

A quick word about Columbus. It is easy to figure out how to go if you know where you are going. Columbus knew from his brother who was a mapmaker that there were two islands across the ocean. That seems to be fairly well known about this time.He also was aware of Marco Polo’s trip records. He assumed that the islands were off the coast of Asia. So that was to be where he would go. His estimates of the size of the Earth were off by a third because of this. He did not even get to the mainland until his fourth voyage. That says something about his information.and he did not arrive at North America, only South America and not much of that. You would think if he was to become viceroy of these lands he would have done some exploring. And to die broke and without title after all that….More comments to come later. out of time today

9 Kim Greenhouse February 9, 2010 at 12:20 pm

Thank you for visiting us. We appreciate your participation. Could you please explain more why you feel that Gavin Menzies findings are distortions, fabrications and lies? This is a worthwhile topic for discussion. Keep in mind that new information that alters our worldview is usually opposed.

For the sake of discussion, it would be useful to specify your issues and then provide references. In this case, you simply called our guest a liar. Please explain what he lied about specifically. We’re hoping to promote discussion rather than hit pieces.

10 Geoff Wade February 9, 2010 at 8:58 am

For further insights on Mr Menzies and 1421, see the Australian documentary “Junk History”

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2006/s1699373.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2006/s1702333.htm

11 Geoff Wade February 9, 2010 at 8:42 am

Check out http://www.1421exposed.com to see the multiple distortions, fabrications and lies proferred by Mr Menzies

12 Robert February 5, 2010 at 8:57 am

Hello, I must add here – no one HAS ever DISCOVERED America – as no one ever ‘discovered’ England or India or China or any country on the planet – it’s ALL been known about ‘by the whole world’ for a long long time.

it’s the BIG BROTHER catch word ‘discovery’ < it's a NLP operative 'blinder' – we do not 'discover' the Universe ( which allows US to roll tanks down other peoples yards ) – we 'create' the Universe – and are directly responsible for every THOUGHT AND ACTION.. MM JUST LIKE GOD!

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