Gavin Menzies – Who Really Ignited The Renaissance?

by on August 10, 2010      

in History & World Events

Gavin Menzies

Gavin Menzies

Believe it or not, there is sweeping evidence that a Chinese fleet sailed to Italy and ignited the Renaissance in 1434. Gavin Menzies, the author of 1421: The Year China Discovered America, returns to talk about his book 1434 and an entirely new perspective on what happened that will change your understanding of history. This book is an investigative adventure that demonstrates that Chinese ideas, discoveries, and inventions formed the basis of western civilization as we know it today.

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1 Rebecca Hanna August 10, 2010 at 6:34 pm

I am thrilled that there is a new surge of interest in revisionist history. I pray that more interviews like this one will go viral and give people an idea of the kind of discovery that is still possible. How romantic!! How exciting!!

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2 Darren August 11, 2010 at 5:59 pm

Hello Kim;
Many researching historians claim Nicolas of Cusa was responsible for the renaissance as he taught geometry: http://www.integralscience.org/cusa.html
Geometry being the subject that connects thought to manifestation, or left and right brain thinking, so brain’s worked in 3D not flatland.

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3 Ian Hudson August 19, 2010 at 2:07 am

Thanks for the great interview Kim! To keep up to date with our research please sign up to our newsletter at http://www.gavinmenzies.net – and please pass it on!
Best wishes,
Ian
1421 team

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4 Kim Greenhouse August 19, 2010 at 6:04 pm

It is always a total pleasure to talk with Gavin and to have him join us. It means so much to myself and our listeners. Thank you all.

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5 Henry August 20, 2010 at 1:25 pm

Actually, the idea of Chinese contribution to modern world is not new, the author of “The Sirius Mystery”, Robert Temple has an article titled “The Modern World : A joint creation of China and the West” discusses such idea
http://www.robert-temple.com/articles_and_papers.html

To embrace such idea, one has to challenge “Eurocentrism” first, and another British man, social anthropologist Jack Goody has written several books on this issue, for intance “Renaissances: The One or the Many?” and “The Theft of History”.

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6 Thomas September 1, 2010 at 8:34 am

Chinese or not, what really ‘ignited’ the renaissance was the black death in the 14th century. Wealth became greatly less concentrated, working wages went up dramatically, as did the inventiveness of those looking to substitute capital for expensive labor.

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7 DolFunHeart October 28, 2010 at 4:54 am

Aloha no ka kou from the “Friendly-Isle”,
Indeed, Jolly-Good- Well-Done, the 1313 event of China’s World map was approx. the time of the 2nd wave of migration Voyaging and Way-Finding from Marquesas to Hava Iti (Hawai’i). Carbon-Dating, shells collected, and the precise adze trail is a strong case to build upon, that the Best-navigators most likely came from the Polynesian-Triangle.
Is it possible that these Oceanic Way-Farers may have Circumnavigated the Globe along with the Chinese Exploration Fleets? The Great Canoes of Oceania, the Waka, Va’a, Wa’a, and especially the Ndhura and Pahi Concepts trully made a difference in the “Way” of Micronesia/Polynesia/Melenesian migratory Discoveries, and community settlement.
Continue-On Commander Gavin, and Thankx so much for your spot-on-target programing, and enlightening interviews Greenhouse-sama… GOD-Speed, and “Aloha” iruka-san.

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8 Michael December 1, 2010 at 6:34 am

I like your site. Very stimulating intellectually and challenging spiritually. However, after listening to several programs, I find a disturbing lack of any skepicism or any desire to confront your guests with established arguments which contradict what they are claiming. There seems to be a blind acceptance of their theories and statements. Blind faith is dangerous, as 9/11 should have taught us.

It would be educational if you were to research the views and theories of your guest vis-a-vis the many substantial criticisms that exist about them in order to ask some probing questions, etc. They should be happy to explain their theories and answer these questions if they are sincere about their views.

Barring that, it would be instructive and interesting to have some folks putting forth counter views or attempting to debunk the theories of your guests.

In any event, I look forward to be challenged by your next program. Thank you for your efforts.

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9 Kim Greenhouse December 1, 2010 at 10:16 am

Michael,

Thank you for your feedback. It’s Rainmaking Time!™ is very much a labor of love, and it helps to know how our audience feels about our work.

If you refer to my interview with Michael Horn, you’ll see that there are certain suggestions and declarations – specifically, the official story on climate change – that I refuse to accept after a year of research and production of 13 segments on every aspect of climate. I received hate mail for confronting him on that issue; I also received death threats for the first show we produced on climate change. As for 9/11, we’ve produced two shows in order to provide a forum for professionals with new forensic insights that detail what the public has missed in understanding that event.

However, as a host, my role is facilitative rather than confrontational. I ask the questions I am guided to ask; I read all of our guests’ books; but, I am not an expert in their fields. What you are asking for is a great deal more investigation time than we could possibly provide with a two person team who produces 3 (or more) shows per week. I also run a full time manifestation company called The Rainmaking Company which takes a great deal of my time. The manifestation that is needed and wanted now with regard to this show is for the public to start getting involved and supporting it.

I invite guests because I find that what they have to say is worth hearing as-is; I’m not in the business of trying to debunk them. That is not my purpose. Of course, if someone from the audience cares enough to submit appropriate questions they feel we should ask, we are happy to include them.

As for having views that contradict those of our guests, that is easy to respond to. The paradigm of broadcasting you’re describing is a confrontational sound byte forum which encompasses almost all traditional media outlets, and frankly, I have no interest in emulating them. I love many people in television and on the radio and have learned a great deal regarding how to invite our guests to speak openly and how to draw them out. Our About section clearly states, “In our interviews, we strive to use decorum, whether or not we agree with our guests.” I want to invite open dialogue, to allow my guests to explain their offerings fully, to provide an open forum that encourages sharing, new knowledge, and discoveries – in short, I want to offer a kind of conversation that opens a space of inquiry and invites dynamic discussion.

If you feel something is missing, a contribution (of time and or, funds) on your part would go towards making it happen. It’s easy to say that our work “should” be a certain way, but until the public becomes directly involved in contributing to the show (especially with regard to funding), there’s only so much we can do. I invite you to participate, and I hope that you understand why I do what I do the way that I do it more clearly. Thanks again.

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10 felix June 3, 2011 at 3:15 pm

hi,kim
i wonder if you ever had a chance to meet or to interview pr. felice vinci, author of a great book of discovery “homer in baltic”, which had a lot of sucsess and has been discussed for years, a real invitation to rewrite our history.
imagine all academy professors invited to accept that the illiad and the odyssey is inherited from a 2500 b.c northern civilization!
i hope you heard about the book,and i think it would be interesting to know felice finci (a very serious and a very shy person)
thanks for the gavin menzies interview.
best wishes
felix in rome

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11 Kim Greenhouse June 10, 2011 at 6:41 am

Hi Felix,

I never heard of Felice Vinci but will certainly have a look. Thank you for commenting and stay tuned to upcoming shows
for new guests. Gavin will be on in September with his new book on Atlantis. Best wishes to you in Rome.

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12 david longenhagen February 20, 2014 at 6:33 am

having digested the book 1434, i then went into details on looking into the maps and correlating the text with what was visible and then corralated these maps, the book to current knowledge. the map found between 178 -180, shows a great lake south of tibet. also shown is a elongated indian land. recently nasa made public the discovery of a vast 1 mile diameter pool of water “under tibet”. A steadfast perusal at the old map, and new maps and this newly gained information gives a rough date to the old map, which “is” very acurate, a date of well over 200,000 years and more likely much older. the current technology to date geologic formations renders the use of sedmintation rates and the carbon 14 methode, both of which when concieved were thought stable, however the sun does indeed vary greatly in its radiation rates and crustal movements can be “over 23 feet in just a day”. This is all to say that there are seemingly many more treasures to be found in china, as they may be the only reminant of the ancient civilization which was left after some sort of tumultuous calamity. However, this also shows something which the astute reader may also see, that great reservoir of water having been entrapped by the formation of the mountains known as the Himalayas, is also home of the legendary shangrala, shambala, where the rain doesnt fall a all the water is from springs, oh, and there is no ageing. the water in the reservoir would have no heavy water in it, “deuterium” , so there would be no fouling of the rna and cellular activity would be normal. thanks Gavin Menzies.

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